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13 Strawhats

Discussion in 'One Piece Theories' started by Diablo26283, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. Diablo26283

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    "And there will be new nakama, they will show up successively." by Eichiro Oda

    Carrot the Ninth from Zou

    Jimbei the Tenth from Fishmen-Island

    Pudding the Eleventh from Whole Cake Island

    Caesar the Twelfth from Punk Hazard

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    I think about of Oda's color selection for each Crew Member: ( Sorry if my englisch is not correct )

    Color Wheel Theory

    Look at the picture


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    Jimbei is already included :)


    The color wheel is official an we all learn at school that we have 3 basic colours:


    Yellow , blue and red


    By mixing the colours we get the secondary colors and tertiary colors


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    We can see that the colors from Oda for the Strawhats fit for the colors wheel!

    Exept Brook: He get the color white and black.

    But white and black is good to get colour nuances.( tertiary colors )

    Source: http://opwiki.de/wiki/Strohhut-Piratenbande or Odas SBS ( Open below the table )



    Then Luffy don't get 10 Nakamas but gain 12 Nakamas alltogether



    4 Nakamas in East Blue , Paradise & New World Theory

    Thies would support the theory that we gain in every stage of the One Piece World (3) 4 Nakamas:

    East Blue: 4 Nakama

    Grandline: 4 Nakama

    New World: 4 Nakama


    Furthermore to my colours and nakama theory!


    Nationalities Theory

    Cover 790 show as the Strawhats in different nationalities!

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    Thies are :

    Luffy for Japan, Zorro for Germany, Nami for the USA , Lysop for Brazil, Sanji for France, Chopper or Canada, Robin for India , Franky for China and Brook for Great Britain

    Oda give us official a home country for the strawhats!

    http://opwiki.org/wiki/Strohhut-Piratenbande ( Open below the table )


    Thies are:

    Luffy for Brazil, Zorro for Japan, Nami for Sweden, Lysop for Africa , Sanji for France, Chopper for Canada, Robin for Russia, Franky for the USA and Brook for Austria

    Of a process of elimination we get 4 countrys left and i think that the last 4 Nakamas get on of thies home countrys from Oda!

    - cross out all duplicate countrys first! ( red )


    - then all home countrys that Oda gave the Strawhats by the SBS!

    Luffy: Japan , Brazil


    Zorro: Germany , Japan


    Nami: USA , Sweden


    Lysop: Brazil , Africa


    Sanji: France , France


    Chopper: Canada , Canada


    Robin: India , Russia

    Franky: China , USA


    Brook: Great Britain , Austria

    Germany , India , China and Great Britain are left and my theory about the Colours and Nakamas in every Stage are more strengthen:thumbsup:

    China = Jimbei

    Germany = Caesar

    India = Pudding

    Great Britain = Carrot


    One More Theory for 13 Strawhats



    The 13 Zodiacs Theory

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    "The legend is an interesting one. Each Chinese zodiac sign and the order they rank in was decided by the mythical Jade Emperor and his favourite creature, the rat. When the task of choosing the zodiac animals fell to the Emperor, he asked the rat to help him. The resourceful rat decided that the best way would be to arrange a race across the river. The order in which the animals arrived would decide who would be second, third, fourth, and so on.

    The rat put the word out across the kingdom, and the first creature to appear on the riverbank was the cat. The pair enlisted the help of the ox, who was resting nearby, and asked him to ferry them across the river. A kind old soul, the ox agreed, but just as they set off, the rat pushed the cat into the river. Hating water, the cat managed to get out and scurried away to dry off.

    Thus, the ox was the second creature to reach the opposite shore. The strong tiger came next, followed by agile rabbit who hopped from stone to stone and floating log. The dragon was hot on the rabbits heels, and only came in fifth because he stopped to make rain and then help the rabbit with a gust of wind. The horse galloped effortlessly across the river, but was pipped to sixth place by the wily snake who was hiding on his hoof. The sheep, monkey, and Rooster arrived together on a raft, taking eighth, ninth, and 10th places respectively. The dog was late because he had stopped for a wash in the river, and the pig had been sleeping, so took 12th place. The poor cat finally dragged himself over to the other side, but it was too late. His anger at the rat has lasted through the ages, and they are still mortal enemies."


    With the Cat are 13 Zodiacs ( First the Rat and Last the Cat )

    The Race across the River in Colourpage

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    Luffy ( Monkey )

    Zorro ( Tiger )

    Nami ( Cat )

    Lysop ( Rat )

    Sanji ( Dragon )

    Chopper ( Dog )

    Robin ( Rooster )

    Franky ( OX )

    Brook ( Horse )

    Carrot ( Rabbit )

    Jimbei ( Pig )

    Pudding ( Snake )

    Caesar ( Sheep )



    Card Game Theory
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    Ruffy = As/1
    Zoro = 2
    Nami = 3
    Lysop = 4
    Sanji = 5
    Chopper = 6
    Robin = 7
    Franky = 8
    Brook = 9
    Jimbei = 10
    Jack / Joker = ?
    Queen = ?
    King = ?


    Clock / Watch Theory

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    Ruffy as Captain is the Clock

    Each normal Clock has 12 Numbers on it and work only with it

    Zorro the First

    Nami the Second

    Lysop the Third

    Sanji the Forth

    and so on


    What do you think about it ?
     
  2. Christina Choi

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    This actually makes sense. Then there is a big chance of 3 new crew mates but honestly, i don't think it'll be easy for someone to just join. Also, it might not be those 4 people who join(although they are the most popular choices). I do like all the theories, especially the color theory and the zodiac theory.
     
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    Very very interesting!!! Enjoyed the theory mate ...good work
     
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    Well theorized, well constructed, and very solidly delivered. And the effort in this is phenomenal.

    Keep them theories coming, man
     
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    Re: The zodiac animal bit

    The goat in that colour spread has a curly eyebrow, wouldn't it make more sense if Sanji were to be inspired by the goat?

    Also, I'm not sure about the nationality bit, would you be able to provide more connections between the characters and the country you've given them?

    All in all, I like this theory, it's far more likely than that Jinbe/Tashigi/Un-named Giant/Smoker theory that's been around for the past couple of years. Personally, I'm on the fence about Caesar joining and the outcome of the WCI arc will hugely determine Pudding's role in the future but it you can easily make cases for all of them joining.

    Looking forward to your next theory ^_^
     
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    Why oh why would you call Usopp "Lysop"? I don't get it.

    Nice theory nontheless, even though Ceasar as a crewmate, that'll be a hard one to swallow.
     
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    Besides the nationality bit and getting our god's name wrong it was an entertaining read.
    Also, Carrot as rabbit in the zodiac? I can't see what gave you that impression, har har.

    Fun fact: The rabbit is replaced by cat in the Vietnamese zodiac.
     
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    First off, welcome to the forum! Definitely agree with everyone else that you obviously put a lot of effort and though into all of this. Oh and your English is definitely fluent enough to not worry about anything.
    Can I ask where this link/table is?
    If it is the quote I am thinking of, it is really old. Around the same time Oda said that the crew would be "complete" before entering the New World. The discrepancies all stem from a mistranslation (a big part of which is how plain and simple the original text is).

    "First I gotta gather up nakama. I want 10 people!! Then a pirate flag!!" Is the text on the bottom two panels. It is very basic so the translator is probably trying to elongate the sentences to fill the text boxes evenly. Unless Oda is going to contradict himself, we have our complete crew.
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    A big part of the 10 member crew is to match up with the 10 members of Blackbeard's executives. Blackbeard has been promoted to be the "final boss" of the story (not the "ultimate boss" who I expect to be the WG/top Marines when the Mugiwaras topple the corrupt system). He is the exact opposite of Luffy in almost every aspect. Unless Oda changes his original plans and adds another character to Blackbeard's executives, by extension Oda is not deviating from his original plan of only 10 members.
     
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    He wanted 10 nakama, currently he has eight:

    1 - Zoro
    2 - Usopp
    3 - Nami
    4 - Sanji
    5 - Chopper
    6 - Robin
    7 - Franky
    8 - Brook

    So there'll be two more. Brook being black and white doesn't need to be the case. The color theory still holds up because there'll be two more nakama in my opinion, not three. The next one is going to be Jinbe for sure, but after that I think either Vivi or someone we haven't met yet will join. Oda DID state that a former enemy will become a nakama, but I hate the thought of having Ceasar onboard.
     
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    Au contraire. Just as it is clearly numbered in all marketing/merchandise material referenced above, Luffy is number one (he has always been from the start in the really early color spreads; Way back in the day Oda left Nami and Usopp without a number leaving people debating if Nami was third or fifth). Thus the crew members physically present are nine, with Jinbei being the final tenth since he has his verbal commitment (fits perfectly with the WCI arc resolving his previous commitment to Big Mom, thus allowing his physical presence for the rest of the series).
     
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    Actually, if you watch the episode where he talks about 10 people, he actually uses the words "jiuu nakama". Would he include himself as a nakama? No he wouldn't.

    Besides, if Luffy's crew is mirrored with Blackbeard's, then they would need 11. Blackbeard's crew is as follows:

    1 - Blackbeard
    2 - Jesus Burgess
    3 - Shiliew
    4 - Laffitte
    5 - Van Augur
    6 - Doc Q
    7 - Stronger
    8 - Sanjuan Wolf
    9 - Vasco Shot
    10 - Catarina Devon
    11 - Avalo Pizarro

    As you can see, Blackbeard has 10 nakama, not including himself. Yes, Stronger counts as a nakama, even though it's a horse. It's the Blackbeard's pet, like Chopper kind of is to the Straw Hats, and it's much stronger than first apperant, seeing as it could survive an attack from Sengoku's Buddha form, and the fact that Blackbeard claims he wouldn't recruit weaklings into his crew.
     
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    #12 Diablo26283, Nov 24, 2016
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    Oda's plans for One Piece was originally five years and yes

    Oda said that the crew would be "complete" before entering the New World.!

    But in Fact One Piece will celebrate 20 years 2017 and Oda want to drow another 10 Years ! There is enough Space for 4 more Crewmembers

    And My Theorys are not
    hair contrived :relaxed:


    For Usopp, Zoro and Luffy ! In German they are Lysop , Zorro and Ruffy

    For Sanji ! He envolve to a Dragon for the fire Attacks , the ability to fly, the spiral, and the devil link ( 666 )


    The Real World Nationalities and from the SBS from Eichiro Oda

    SBS:
    Nationalities

    In an SBS question, a fan asked if the Straw Hats were real, what nationality would they be of. Based on their appearances, Oda gave the following as a reply


     
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    The Zodiac made it somehow convincing, nice theory btw!

    I got another theorist with Caesar on his list of the future strawhat hahaha we are now friends pal! :D
     
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    good theory
     
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    No...that too is a mistranslation. I just posted the original text, and the words Oda uses in Japanese is "10-nin" ("10 people"; He even uses the quotation marks for emphasis). Plus arguing against the numbering is arguing against Oda. Oda has decided Luffy to be 1 and he has done this from the start.

    As for the horse...the poor guy/gal is in worse shape than Doc Q. Having the horse fight a Mugiwara member (after all the power ups to come in the near future and throughout the arcs leading up to the war against Blackbeard) is animal cruelty. It will probably by Doc Q and the horse against Chopper (probably comedic scenes with Chopper getting tricked/distracted by the horse since they can communicate).
    Oda recently gave an estimate that the story is 70% done (as far as I know his most recent interview). So we have roughly 7-8 years left. Sure there is room for addition, but Oda has yet to deviate from his original plans and contradicting himself. Your analysis/connections make sense and are rational in the patterns, but I would enjoy reading it applied to a different theory.
     
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    great compilation of theories :)

    I've already seen most of the theories which is included on this thread and I agreed in many details but the main topic which i disagree is we will see two new female nakamas in new world, imo the straw hats will only have one female nakama in new world just like in paradise and grandline, carrot is stronger candidate for nakama compare to pudding.
     
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    What role would carrot serve on the Straw Hats crew though? Everyone else has like a job or a role that makes them invaluable. She is fast and strong, yes, but that wouldn't make her enough of a unique Straw Hat IMO. Jinbe could serve as a diplomat of sorts, because under Big Mom maybe he gained a lot of contacts within the New World, allowing him to reach out to a lot of people on different islands.
     
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    Carrot is the Spy for the the lookout

    She can get information and steal with out being noticed. She is in a good body shape that allows her to be acrobatic and fast to run away if spotted.

    Jimbei is the Helmsman

    Pudding the Baker ( Help with Sanji to take care for the Crew )

    Caesar the Scientist ( Help with Chopper to develop new medicine and weapons
     
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    When has carrot ever done anything spy-like? Except sneak into Whole-Cake Island (which they totally failed to do by the way). So the only good thing about Jinbe is that he can steer the Thousand Sunny? That sounds like a very downgraded role compared to everyone else on the ship. Franky can of course steer the ship he made. They don't need Jinbe for that.

    They already have a cook. Pudding would just be an extra then, which is boring. I like the fact that Sanji is the one in charge of the food that the Straw Hats eat.

    The only reasonable position IMO is scientist, but I flipping hate Ceasar more than blood pudding.
     
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    I don't know who will join..but as mentioned above Jinbee and Pudding will reduce job dependency on one person and will increase flexibility..

    Pudding as assistant.cook or desert specialist also wonder wh her DF is abt ...her third eye is mystery till date...

    Jinbee for all good reasons...first being a Fishman on board is an added advantage for the crew on water... he will not only reduce dependency of Helsmen but also will add up to the non DF users on the crew who can save DF users when required !

    Ceaser as all know will also be a great combo with chopper ...only thing he needs is a character development !
     

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