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King the Wildfire is Impel Down's former Warden

Discussion in 'One Piece Theories' started by Anjo, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. Anjo

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    #1 Anjo, Nov 26, 2018
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    To be honest, I just found about this idea on Youtube and I decided to do a little comparison between King and Impel Down's known wardens, namely, Magellan and Hannyabal.

    First, let me show their appearances:

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    Now, let's discuss their similarities:
    1. Clothing - They all wear a black suit with lots of buttons.
    2. Wings - They have wings on their backs.
    3. Headgear - They all have something on their heads, (Magellan with his horns, Hannyabal with his Egyptian inspired headgear, and King with his Pica-esque mask)
    Their differences:
    1. King's wings resembles to those of a bird or an angel whereas Magellan and Hannyabal are more like devil/bat wings.
    2. King's insignia on his collars is different, a skull instead of Impel Down's logo like those of Magellan and Hannyabal. Now, we do know someone from Impel Down who dons those insignia on his collars.
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    To think that both King and Shiliew are now pirates, I guess it's safe to say that having skulls displayed on your uniform instead of Impel Down's logo is the most likely action to take.

    The timeline also fits perfectly. We all know Magellan got promoted from Vice-Warden to Warden 22 years ago. And King was present at Wano 20 years ago during Kaido's siege. So betrween those time he could have joined Kaido.

    Another angle I try to draw parallels between them is the overall concept of their designs. Magellan resembles a Baphomet while Hannyabal is likely based from Anubis. So to speculate about King's design based on those two, I'd assume his design would be related to a mythological creature linked to death/evil (Satan/Lucifer?). But, if we take their wings into the equation, does it point to something different for King, perhaps to a less evil creature (Angel/Fallen Angel)? Or do his wings have something to do with his probable Zoan fruit (Pegasus, Griffin)? Or maybe a Winged-Lion Zoan fruit with him being named King, as in King of the Jungle?
     
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    Extremely plausible.

    On a side note what's with all the new world's firstmates. Zoro,pica,katakuri, king... They all have their hilarious quirks
     
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    there's Djinn called Eefret, made from fire, thanks google~
    some literature said; angel made of light, there Djinn and satan are made of fire yo~
     
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    Wasn’t Shiryu the warden before Magellan?

    It’s an interesting theory, I personally think King and Queen are two of Oda’s least exciting designs, but I have faith that their powers will more than make up for that
     
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    yeah
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    This dude looks more like someone with a warden fetish rather than actual warden. Also the clothes are not completely same
    And why would he still be wearing his warden clothes after years?
    But hey Shiriyu is still wearing same clothes after 2 years so I don't even know
     
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    He wasn't.

    Shiryu was the Head Jailer while Magellan was the Warden, but Magellan imprisoned him because he tortured prisoners the whole time.
     
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    oh that's how it was. My bad
     
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    hey, at least we know what oda gets up to during break week now

    Ah right, I couldn't quite remember. Thank you!
     
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    As usual, @Admiral Ryokugyu was too fast. By the time I read the thread and found the pages, to post, he’d already responded lol. But I already wrote the post when I saw the new messages so I’m loading it anyways, do forgive the redundancy. ^_^

    @Marco Polo between playing with Pokémon and drawing out his warden kinks, it seems he keeps quite busy indeed. ^_^

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    Wait, when did Magellan become a pirate?

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    I’m pretty sure that they meant to say Shiryu there.

    Edit: you know what, maybe not... I’m all kinds of confused now. Let’s just wait and see what the answer is. ^_^
     
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    He wanted to say Shiryu. He said:

    Magellan doesn't have skulls on his uniform, so he clearly intended to say Shiryu
     
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    I thought so but I read it so many times that I confused myself with the juxtaposition of the names all together like that and I really don’t like to assume. ^_^
     
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    Sorry, I meant Shilliew. I'll edit it now.
     
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    Not everyone agrees with this but I really dig the queen and king design...
    Big and burly guys fitting the beast pirates theme but don't look totally Brutish and manage to look responsible (which they would have to be becaise their captain is Kaido)
    For me Queen is a masterpiece it's not easy to make a fat bald okama have such a presence. Oda outdid himself
     
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    calling it right now. Queen can transform into a giant scorpion.
     
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    Did someone say Queen and Scorpions? ^_^
     
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    Based on the 'Wildfire' epiphet and Kaidou having Zoan users on his crew, I guess he will have a mythical Zoan Devil Fruit.
    After looking up various creatures I narrowed the possibilities to Chimera, Hellcat, Hellhound, Imp or Onmoraki. They all have Fire related abilities, I was thinking Onmoraki because of King's wings but I think that is apart of Impel Downs outfit design.
     
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    as a ignisCat, hellcat approved :3

    #it_will_be_cat-asstrophic_you_know_:3
     
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    I really like this part of the theory. Someone said Oda confirmed Akainu's ability to be the most destructive, so a pure fire/heat based fruit seems unlikely. Since he is a fire based catastrophe, I assume the griffin fits best?

    Reading the other responses, thankfully there are a bunch of options. Efreet/Ifrit/whatever desired spelling, seems like a nice fit based on King's character design.

    As for the designs, my bias would be the excessive overlap. Queen literally is taken out of Okama-land (and I assume she probably is, which makes for an interesting backstory since Queen is at least just as strong as Ivankov) while King is a mashup of a few previous characters. Once we get the character development, they will stand out on their own, so I'm not too worried about that part.
     

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