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[OFFICIAL] One Piece Chapter 939: An Old Hyourse* Knows the Way

Discussion in 'Past Chapters' started by Seiryu, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Kia

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    Yeah doesn’t have the flower guard or the pink tricut circles on the scabbard. I was just skimming, TBH and saw what I thought was the black blade. That’s my bad. ^_^ Good catch!
     
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    I really enjoyed this chapter. I figured Hiyori to be weak and washed up. Glad I was wrong! :)
     
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    I don't know, didn't really think much of the school but it could be possible that the school head is one of the Headliners but Flying Six? Nah
    They are too important to teach at a school.
     
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    It's still possible that she's weak.

    School heads rarely teach and is mostly involved with overseeing/managing the school. We saw 2 members sent just to capture a soba shop owner and a carpenter, but yeah, they're probably the "weakest" members.
     
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    Yeah that might be the case. Good thinking though, I never gave much thought to the school.
     
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    I’d like to go on record as saying I agree with everything in this post. When an editor mentioned this arc being bigger than Marineford it became clear to me what should/might happen.

    This arc hasn’t even really started in my opinion. Just think, the Big Mom Pirates aren’t going to be kept away the entire arc, Nekomamushi will be there at some point and likely with some awesome backup, I do believe some Marine presence will be there possibly even CP0 whom have been ever present lately, I think all of the supernova will participate, I think we may even get an opportunistic Blackbeard; the amount of players in this war is going to be massive. Kaido should have a similar death to Whitebeard, in that it should come only through a series of battles with a barrage of attacks from everyone and everything.
     
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    @Pacquiao8 I meant Hyogoro lol
    These names confuse the living daylights out of me xD
     
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    Let's ship Hyo and Hiyori then. #HyoRi
     
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    Right.
    @Pacquiao8 what worries me though is the fact that Oda still had no idea how Luffy will beat Kaido when he introduced Kaido in the manga ( post-Dressrosa ), so i really hope he won't come up with a cheap way to do it. The editor said in 2017 that he read the complete script of Wano and that he loved it, so i guess Oda came up with something interesting to defeat Kaido.
    yeah it sucks, but i was talking about the new path Oda chose. With all the chaos going on right now in this arc i don't see how Jinbei can make an appearance. The editors are being very secretive about how many acts we'll get in total. It's most likely 5 just like the kabuki plays in general, so the war might not break out until Act 5 or 4, which means there's still a huge amount of story development before we get there thus it's still too early for Jinbei to show up.

    Oda in Jump Festa implied that Wano arc won't end in 2019. It tells a lot about how much story is in it.
     
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    The thing is, that commentary also mentioned that Oda wants Luffy to beat Kaido without the typical Luffy techniques like stronger attacks and whatnot. He probably has the plan at that point, except on how the fight goes.

    Jinbe will show up probably right before or during the first half of the war.
     
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    #72 Admiral Ryokugyu, Apr 15, 2019
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    Eiichiro Oda's comment after Chapter 939:

    " It seems i'll die early if i don't start working out, so i made a decision: i'll run for 30 minutes everyday. "

    Editor's comment for Chapter 940:

    " Wano Country is in chaos. What will happen to Straw Hat Luffy ? "

    " New info regarding One Piece: Stampede "
     
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    That's a good decision :).
     
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    I seriously wish Shonen would learn their lesson and stop the obnoxious work schedule they have mangakas under.
     
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    Oh goodness. Someone please give this man a break.
     
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    If they sent both to the future, and the group doesn't get saved by Luffy, both Momo and Hiyori do not return to Wano Kuni. The smart plan is to keep them separate so that someone is still in Wano Kuni. Oda's poor planning is why Hiyori's upbringing contradicts what a "royal" would undergo, but at least that's minor details/believability.
    Ah nice. I only operate off of the info I get here, so that's good to hear.
    Was Laboon in the background? I only remember the two of them and don't remember the background at all.
    Yes. Most people have an incomplete/incorrect idea of what a "parry" should be. If you only negate the attack with no offensive benefit, it is just an incomplete/poorly executed parry. Judo throws are the perfect example of using the attack for both defense and high offense (what Luffy is aiming for based on primarily Sentoumaru).
    This is fully my bias, but Oda has very few "categories" that he uses to power-up characters. Because of this, Admirals/Yonkou/similar ranked people have to have high levels for all categories (Shanks is the only exception in that he has no fruit ability but has higher levels of every other category to still make up the difference).

    Maybe the best means of bridging the gap: even a Yonkou "weakness" is still mastery compared to the rest of the world.
    I completely misread this post (until I read @Kia's response). I think if we remove the ponoglyph = kairouseki, there is still a valid question of how "indestructible" materials are worked with.

    Poneglyphs and the Red Line are "indestructible". I don't recall kairouseki being referred to it as the same level, but contextually it is at the same level or at least very close. This is where the Moon Residents and the Vegapunk level technology being present during the Void Century is the answer. We already know someone from Wano Kuni was on good terms/was a Moon Resident/was a part of the Ancient Kingdom. Others have mentioned that all it takes is a kairouseki, poneglyph, Red Line "tool" to cut the other objects.
    Hmm..this opens up a whole potential can of worms. Maybe Oda explains part of the "benefits/power up" from the black blade. My bias is that it shouldn't, but even the "intimidation" aspect could be explained away by Shusui. Either way, this is going to get expanded on before we leave Wano Kuni (but probably after the Big Mom war unless Oda really does something weird/somehow gets her out of there).
    That just looks like a sheath to me. I haven't read Monsters, but even the base of a blade should slice his hand. Considering Oda doesn't show things until they get revealed, I think we have to assume the same things as One Piece in that context implies it is there, but it is not shown. Same thing is already happening with busoushoku (logia/elemental paramecia are touched without the blackening in both the anime and manga).
    Quoted the whole thing since the first part is what worries me the most. I can't help but shake the feeling Oda is absolutely trying his best to not give Luffy "Gear Fifth". Belivability goes to absolute crap without it. I as a whole, still have very high faith in Oda (99%). Thankfully, it appears editors/WSJ execs/someone has enough respect from Oda that he listens to them when they point out the flaws of the real B.S. He was completely running with it for a while, and they have completely stopped right when his admissions came out. The one panel on breaking Kaidou's scales are the sort of "breadcrumbs" implying the return of more B.S. Oda loves to foreshadow, and that's why it is easy to see if we still have to worry.

    If Luffy starts to talk about realizing he needs an astronomical power up to stand a realistic chance, then we don't have to worry. It is slightly against Luffy's personality (I only use slightly because Luffy has always had excellent "fighting instincts" once he becomes a teen). He knows the gap, but never talks about it. Having Oda break this trend/characteristic of Luffy is the "necessary defeat" Pac-man and myself just discussed in the chapter 938 discussion. It should happen to make the series the most believable. It only fits best if it happens before all Yonkou defeats.
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    Oda's heart is having problems...we are in MAJOR trouble. Once the heart goes bad, the entire body is going to slowly break down (inability to both get fuel/nutrients as well as remove waste products from tissues/organs/body parts). If it is so bad that a physician is telling Oda he will die, it is BAD.

    Thankful for the info...it is nothing but absolute crap (from a fan perspective).
     
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    #77 Admiral Ryokugyu, Apr 16, 2019
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    Shueisha gives him up to 9 break weeks a year. That's not the issue. The issue is his insane schedule during chapter weeks. Even on break weeks he works on the manga. He's fatally obsessed with One Piece, that's all he does and thinks about. We're talking about a man worth +200 million dollar, has a huge luxurious house, and yet he sleeps on his desk in his office for less than 3 hours a day.
     
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    Still doesn't make any sense to me, especially that the one sent to the future is the older child. Poor Hiyori, became the country's #1 wh*re/sl*t/b*tch.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I didn't get that vibe in the slightest
    This is the darkest part of this whole arc that no one has acknowledged. Hyori being a prostitute/escort is some heavy stuff! It's even more so frowned upon in oriental cultures. It might be something we see tackled later.
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    Can't stand theories about Komurasaki not actually being Hyori; there isn't much merit to those ideas and it's not an angle I'd be pleased with happening. Some of the big time reviewers were trying to wrap their head around why she would have been so mean and cruel to some men... she was essentially forced into hiding and prostitution and likely viewed those men as traitors. She's been getting revenge, however small, by using her position and situation.

    This. I wouldn't blame Shueisha explicitly but the culture in Japan of that being an acceptable working expectation/environment. His work schedule isn't unique and I feel like there has to be a way to get him a legitimate 8 hour sleep schedule and a more realistic work/life balance. It might mean he relies on some additional support but at some point we as fans should be concerned about the creator as much as we are the product he gives us.
     
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    Yeah, it's also possible that Hiyori is as pervert as his older brother which makes the "whole story" darker.
     
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