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Roger had the Haki Haki no Mi

Discussion in 'One Piece Theories' started by Robin-Senpai Is The Best, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. Robin-Senpai Is The Best

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    (This may be a stupid theory, but I thought of it, therefore I have to make a thread of it.)
    Ok, so we don't know what Roger's devil fruit was or if he even had one. In the latest Data Book, Oda wouldn't talk about Roger's haki. So what if, Roger had control of haki through a devil fruit? And what if he left that devil fruit on Raftel... somehow? (Yeah I'm gonna escalate this to unrealistic levels because how else can people point out flaws? We can make new theories that way!)
     
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    There's no reason to assume that, is there? Did every other entry go into detail about it?

    How about this: Since it wasn't mentioned, Roger had no Haki.
     
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    Okay I’ll play along... he was using the power of the fruit? So he ate it? Then how could he leave it at Raftel?

    Or did the previous owner of Smoothie’s fruit partially juice it for him so he could extract only some of its properties and thus leave the rest in the fruit? Wait... isn’t that the same as only taking one bite of the fruit and it still uses it up? Has that ever been analyzed? Hmmm...
     
  4. Robin-Senpai Is The Best

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    Roger is truly a badass to have made it then.
     
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    Do you mean that since it's not mentioned then we conclude he had no Haki ? or you mean that since it's not mentioned then all options are valid including him not having any Haki ?

    Because in the Databook when the Haki section is left empty it doesn't necessarily mean the character had no Haki. It only means the author doesn't wanna talk about it.
     
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    Well, Haki is something like a willpower, so I doubt it has anything to do with a devil fruit. Due to the fact that Roger was handcuffed with a wooden cuff during his execution, a lot of people still believe he wasn't a df user (unless something else happened) so I'm going with the idea that he was one hell of a strong haki user.
     
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    another HUGE misconception here my friend. Roger had the wooden handcuffs in the anime, not the manga, so we can't take it as a fact. In the manga we can't see Roger's handcuffs.

    Remember Roger and Garp flashback in Marineford arc ? Roger was not handcuffed with a wooden cuff. It was probably a seastone one.
     
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    That manga chapter was like long ago so I didn't remember, I remember the anime version since I rewatched it. But anyway, if that's the case, and if he did have a df, I'm just gonna hope it's not some kind of an overpowered df. Well I believe it's not.
     
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    Mini Robin,at the time Roger was a pirate on his prime i think DF's were very rare because Rayleigh was talking to someone about "these DF's i heard about",it could only mean he didn't knew about it's existance but obviously he did because WB had and his captains had it,Buggy ate one and Teach stole one and ate it,so it could mean when he was sailing with Roger DF's were not as common as they are now.
    My guess is Roger had no DF,he was just very strong and a master of haki just like Rayleigh and Shanks.
    Unless someone can confirm the handcuffs the Navy used on him were made of Kairouseki.
     
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    @Robin-Senpai Is The Best I apologize because again i'll answer a message destined to you ( i know you wanna punch me right now ), @KKG when did Rayleigh say that ? Was it in the manga or in the anime ? Which flashback was that ? that seems interesting but i don't remember Rayleigh saying such thing
     
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    what if Roger had BB devil fruit
     
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    Yay! Someone else just jumping in and going down the theory rabbit hole.
     
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    I only watched the anime.
    He said that in some memory were he was talking to some big badass,could be Shanks.
    But the anime is so big i don't remember,i'm sorry buddy.:smile:
     
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    Wait can someone use Haki and a “Haki Haki no mi”? What would it do
     
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    I have another question:
    How about Kairoseki Kairoseki no Mi?
     
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    WE NEED ANSWERS ODA TELL USSSSSS
     
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    Tell us and put us out if our misery
     
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    Maybe it allows you to control or draw out other people’s Haki as well as your own. You know, freely manipulate Haki at will without the limitations that everyone else has.
     
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    He had One Piece One Piece no Mi:laughing:
    Before his execution he could know that when it's user dies this DF will be created in Raftel.
    "I left it there,you want it,look for it."
     
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    So what did that fruit do? :P
     

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